Sorry guys the new match post section is not working as planned, will hopefully be in place for the Spurs game.

In the meantime we’ll look ahead to Burnley here. A lot to talk about from the Arsenal game, this one will be pretty different. Although it’s very early in the season these are them games we have to achieve top 4+ come the end of the season.

Mane’s injury is not as bad as first feared (early report), it’s muscular and not a dislocated shoulder, he’ll certainly miss this game but should return at Spurs. He’ll be missed already, this guy is going to be huge for Liverpool.

I suspect Lallana will take his place with Can slotting into midfield unless Origi starts and Firmino plays wide. It’s good to have some depth ain’t it 🙂

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DB-99
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Maybe, if not Origi then sturridge can start. We have Ings available as well but he needs time. I wonder if a loan move is open for Ings so he can get some consistent game time. This is a game we should win. I’m hoping to see Matip play as well. Apparently a deal is agreed with Palace for Benteke. I feel for him really as he is a really good player if the team plays to his strengths. He clearly lacked confidence in his time here and was under microscope consistently, although those easy one on ones and easy chances he missed didn’t help his cause. Wish him all the best at Palace, except when they play against us off course. With them being our bogey team of some sorts, I can see this one coming back to haunt us. Last season it was a contentious last second penalty that Benteke won to give us the win so I wonder how the Palace fans will react to him but we all know football fans often have short memories and I’m sure he’ll get a good welcome once they see him in the Palace jersey
warrior18
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We just done the gunners at the emirates, although we did our best to blow it, so i’m fully expecting all 3 points here. It’s these type of teams that have been a torn in our side in recent seasons but i reckon klopp has sorted that out as in instilling confidence in our players ability’s. He and our players know we should be stuffing these teams, easier said than done i know. I’d like to see Origi get a run of games with studge, i know klopp prefers the lone striker as such but with so few games this season we can’t have one of these players rusting away by sitting on the bench, play them both, they could be prolific together. We have to be confident, we’ve had a great start, i know it’s only the 2nd game of the new season but let’s keep this momentum going, steamroller burnley, sent out a message to the other smaller clubs, “this is liverpool visiting your ground and we’re back, thanks for the training session and 3points, see you guys at anfield” and lets moon out the back window of the coach as we head for home. “Come On The… Read more »
Huytonian
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Early season games against newly promoted teams are rarely easy especially away from home. We will have to match their intensity before we can deploy our superior skills. Hopefully Milner will replace Moreno and I would like to see Origi start, with Sturridge coming on to replace him in the latter stages (then Sturridge to start against Burton). I would play Origi because without Mane we are short of a bit of pace which the Belgian lad can provide. I would keep Lovren for this one but give Matip a start against Burton. As others have said this is the sort of game where we need 3 points if we are to make the top 4 at the end of the season.

DB-99
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what a f’n calamitous start!

KLOPPite
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The players need to mature and show leadership and hunger and also appreciate and respect all opponents, and start off right. How many rah-rah speeches do they think Klopp can effectively deliver at halftime?

lanoisseforp
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Disastrous first half from Clyne’s poor pass on the first goal and the second one with a counter. With all the chances and passes at their end we could not finish them off plus they have parked the bus too. We have a mountain to climb in the second half.

lanoisseforp
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Disappointing result and well done to Burnley. Next stop is the League Cup against Burton Albion this Tuesday night coming.

KLOPPite
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What is more disappointing? That we commit an error and let them score in the second minute? Or that we couldn’t find an equalizer that we knew we’d have to chase the rest of the match?

RedUncle
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I usually try to find the positives in a game but that performance was pretty much awful from start to finish (you know things are bad when Moreno isn’t on the pitch and the defence is worse). Burnley obviously had a plan – concede possession to us, keep us shooting from distance and score from breaks or set pieces. We fell for it hook, line and sinker. We had over 80% possession and yet the best we could do with it was just keep predictably shooting from outside of the box. It’s not like this is a new tactic against us either, others have tried it and got results. At least against Arsenal we were creative while we let in goals, this time we just let in goals. Hopefully that will act as an early wake-up call – we have to be on our game whoever we play against.

KLOPPite
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Sadly the questions remain:
How many years do we need this wake up call? and…
When are we gonna find a way to break down the defenses like this and quit shooting 20 yard bombs twenty times a match?

RedUncle
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The one saving grace is that we’re early enough in the season to do something about it. What Klopp and the team can’t do is put it down to just one of those games.

KLOPPite
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Early enough with the summer window still open

DB-99
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Today was just pathetic. No1 performed. Hopefully we get a proper CDM and LB.

KLOPPite
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The one good bit of news from today, at least we aren’t Arsenal

HAMNUM8
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Well that was ****, back down to earth with a bang today. What a poor showing from us that was. For me the whole balance of the team today looked awkward, I’m still struggling to know why we bought Gingi & what his role actually is in the team??? Only 2 games in & already a carbon copy of last season great result (nearly threw it away last week) followed by a **** result or performance, at this rate we will be the most consistent inconsistent side in the PL. I’m not throwing the towel in or having a knee jerk reaction but it’s just a worrying sign from last season
I’m realistic & don’t see us anywhere near the title this season but at least a crack at top 4

warrior18
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We should have known better, one step forward and two back, story of the last few years. We had all the possesion but done nothing with it, sound familier. We missed mane today but we can’t capitulate just because one player is missing, this result is not a good sign for the season ahead even though it’s only the 2nd game. We should have laid down a marker today and destroyed burnley but alas normal service resumes, ah well, we’ll be spurs and get back on track until we meet a bottom half of the table team like we did today.

RedUncle
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What annoys me is that these performances are always against the same type of teams – bottom of the table sides that you know are going to sit back, let us have the ball and hit us on the break. It’s so predictable how they’re going to play and yet season upon season we’ve not found an answer to it, we always end up just banging in lame shots from outside the box. It baffles me. We know Klopp and this set of players are better than the display they served up today so why we still get subjected to dire games like this I don’t know.

DB-99
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I’m starting to wonder how we ever paid 30M plus for Firmino? He gives the ball away so easily, iakes poor passes, no pace and while there were moments of good finishes last season, he epitomises the inconsistency that plagues us. Gini is another player whom I think 25M is pure extortion for the amount we paid Newcastle. Perhaps he needs some time to settle and find his place in the team.

RedUncle
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To be honest, it was one of those rare games where every one of our players was either one or two levels below their best, no-one escapes criticism this time. Firmino is one of those players that either stands out or disappears (or is woeful), there’s no middle ground. That tends to be the case with Brazilian players in general, for some reason. But the fact we were so poor throughout the team suggests this was not down to individual failings but a more systemic issue. We have games like this when we face lower table teams we’re expected to beat which raises these questions: a) Does the team mentally switch off when facing lower table opposition? b) Is the team unprepared when facing the tactics employed by lower table sides (usually sacrificing possession, defending deep then hitting on the break)? For years, under different managers, we’ve seen the same kind of results against lower table teams – we unexpectedly get thrashed when playing our attacking style of football. I think it’s time we admitted that against certain teams that play a certain way we need a variant to our usual way of playing, one that doesn’t include lashing in… Read more »
Huytonian
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I said a couple of weeks ago I was more worried about this game than the Arsenal game, but even so I was not expecting such a woeful performance. Last season I was loathe to blame Klopp as he was still finding his feet in the PL but I am worried that he doesn’t seem to have learned the lessons from some of our performances last season. An obvious one is that while playing Firmino as a false 9 can work against the better teams who will attack us and thus leave more space for us to exploit, it doesn’t work against park the bus teams. And surely Hodgson’s misuse of Sturridge in the Euros shows the lad should be played only as a central striker and not wasted out wide. Enough has been said about the crying need for a left-back who can defend but we will continue to suffer without a specialist defensive midfielder (oh for a Mascherano). It’s so frustrating because it would not take much to make this a really top team. There is plenty of ability there it just needs a bit more work to get a better balance and to allow players to settle… Read more »
HAMNUM8
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The thing that annoyed me yesterday as well is that little bit of arrogance in the way we lined up, in the sense of lets just load the team full of attacking flair & we’ll walk it, err no chance in this league. We need or have needed for along time now in my eyes a DM which we point blank do not have & it shows big time especially in games like Saturday, why did we not trigger Kante RC look how easy that was & chelski aren’t in Europe at’ll, if we are going to blow £25m on Gingi who is going to take me a lot of convincing, then we could of put another £5-10m & get what we need. Two games stood out for me Saturday Chelskis & Spuds both had similar sort of teams like we did & they managed to close the game out & get a result & both teams have a Matic,Kante,Wanyama,Dembele type players & the only real one we have is Lucas & We’r trying to flog him. That we be the difference in our season & until it’s rectified it we be more of the same. Even if we got… Read more »
DB-99
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When I think of this Burnley game and think back to other numerous familiar results, in most of those there were moments where with a bit of luck, eg. scoring in any one of the chances instead of hitting the bar a couple of times in a game, could’ve changed the results easily. At Burnley the team looked lethargic and unprepared which is a fatal in this league. Klopp just packed the midfield and attack and both of our fullbacks attack at the same time with 1 “defensive midfielder” simply leaves us so vulnerable. I think tactically there needs to be 2 sitting in midfield that protects the defense. Our only source of width is our fullbacks so both have to go up to stretch the play and widen the opposition defense so that players like Sturridge can have the space to run in behind. 2 DM, 2 CBs and other midfielders covering will drastically improve our defending counter attacks odds. At the moment, everytime a team counters, it seems like we run the risk of conceding. Having 2 DM will give more balance. At Burnley, if it was 0-0 20 or 30 minutes in, the game would’ve opened up.… Read more »
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