A hearty Congrats to Leicester winning the title literally against all odds!  Spurs have made their way to second.  What happens now?  This has been such a topsy turvy season where Chelsea have taken a season long absence, West Ham are looking for top4??  Spurs are second and it looks like we are going to cement that 7th place finish.  The forthcoming changes next season with Pep at City, Conte at Chelsea and possible Mourinho at Utd and the rise of this Spurs team, the traditional top sides in England looks to have changed with us seemingly falling out of that bracket and Utd getting pushed down the list being our only source of joy.  I saw an article recently of the league table over the past 10 years and we are positioned either 6th or 7th in terms of points accumulated over the past ten years which just highlights our standing in terms of the status quo.  Definitely not where we want to be and in the grand scheme of things just further highlights our decline spanning the course of almost 30 years now.  I know we all long for the glory days to return at Anfield where we fight for league and european titles but given the current situation, I’m interested to know if fans would be happy with a season where we give top 4 a decent go and have a good cup run like we have had this year with the Carling cup and Europa league?

I know things are positive with Klopp at the helm but I fear we ask too much from him in terms of the quality of our players and the level of competition he is dealing with as well as the disability in offering large wages and transfer funds.  Who knows what the future holds but taking a step back and looking that squad that we have and the environment in which we are competing, can we really expect titles in the foreseeable future? TBH I don’t but am hopeful nonetheless.

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cfleejb
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Unfortunately we have been labelled as a cup side for quite some time now as even with the title within sight and reach in 2009 and 2014, LFC managed to screw up big time!

KLOPPite
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I’m probably in the minority, and if we are out of Europe next year I might change my opinion, but I say screw the domestic cups. Focus on giving everything to the league and let youth play in the Cups.
I’m also in the minority I’m guessing that I think Pep is overrated. I don’t think he is going to work any sudden miracle at City. And Conte will improve Chelsea because that won’t be tough. But we all need to remember that coaches usually don’t walk in right away and have instant success, especially when they inherit a team of overpriced, old, or low quality **** like what is at the Mancs and Chelsea.
Klopp is getting his first season of dealing with that out of the way now.
I actually like our chances at top 4 next season with a couple key additions and having an offseason to integrate them and hit the ground running

warrior18
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I think klopp has had a great season so far considering he only came in last november if i remember correctly. One cup final and a chance for another.
I think how well we do next season depends on who we get in during the summer, if klopp gets 3-4 of the players he wants then for sure we will at the very least be challenging for the top4 and possibly beyond. Let’s not forgot that city, chelsea and manure will all be in transition with new managers so i think next season is a great chance for us to get back to the CL but as i said earlier it all depends on whether klopp can get his own players in.

lanoisseforp
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Give Klopp a season or two… we’ll have a great team… my uncle said this to be a few months back… and he’s a manure supporter and he’s in his 70s.

sandiphulse
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As a true fan, what I want to see is everybody in the squad thinking about LFC and LFC alone, that alone can bring success, we would be lying if we say that uncertainty and inconsistency has not plagued our club for years now, we want players who are willing to give everything to the club week in and week out and our transfer window should be based on that, once we achieve this that is when we can get the glory back to Anfield..

The only players that fall in this bracket for me is Adam Lallana, J Milner, J Allen , P Coutinho , D Lovren , N Clyne , J Flanno , D Origi there could be more but these players have shown clear commitment, am absolutely sure that these are the same players who will have a greater impact in the coming seasons

Huytonian
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I would add Henderson, Ings and Can to your list of players who give everything.

sandiphulse
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Agree with you mate , can’t wait to see Ings next season , hope Gomez and D Ings will have a good pre season and contribute in the next season

KLOPPite
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I would add those as well. Maybe Lucas as he’s played out of position at CB and has done respectable there.
But the real question is: “Is giving their all good enough?”
For some that isn’t the case. No matter what they give, it isn’t to a level necessary for us to take a step up. Firmino for instance. At times he has poured it on, other times he’s been a ghost or detrimental. IF he were to give his best all the time, he would ratchet up the team. Where maybe a certain player who gives their all every time is a nice roll player, but isn’t going to elevate us any further than they already have

Musicman71 aka Muso
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HOW VERY DARE YOU!!
Comparing us that lot!! Disgraceful!!!!
So what if our best campaigns since the awesome 2013/14 season have been in cup competitions? you should look at the opportunities that it’s given to ‘blood’ the newbies and academy lads.
Look. 6-7 months ago I would’ve snatched at a LC final and the EL final. It just goes to show how much the team have grown under the Kloppmeister.
Don’t look on with disappointment, or frustration. Look on with hope in your hearts. That’s what I’m doing!

Koped49
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Yes it has been frustrating over the last few years, but if we don’t have hope then we have nothing, we have some good players within the club now, see what Klopp as done with them already, yes it as been inconsistent at times, but look at what he took over a team who’s players were being played out of position, players who wrote getting injured regularly, because they were allowed to come back to soon. Klopp has changed all that, he is increasing the fitness of the whole team. Recoup ration and rehabilitation is better and happens quicker, all because he is sorting out the medical team, the fitness team, the coaching set, of which he as had no real qaulity time with the players for a prolonged period, due to the amount of games we have played. Let’s sees what happens once they have all been trying for a good pre season period. Players like Ings, Gomez, and some of the loan players coming back, coupled with the new signings he as already made, plus the moving out of any player he feels is surplus to requirements. The likes of Balotelli, so there will be players in and… Read more »
Realspanishred
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Has Leicester or Dortmund for that matter not taught anyone anything about football. You don’t need mega bucks to win the league. What you do need is teamwork and a manager who knows how to use it. Well imo Klopp has shown me that we have that. All we need now is that little bit of extra quality, which I’m sure we will add in the summer. I don’t think we will be going for top four I think we will be going for the title. As someone said above when you change management it doesn’t just fall into place. If the Mancs change management and the others do as well, I expect the title to be between us spurs and Arsenal (but only if they keep Wenger).. Save this post and tell me if I was wrong at the end of next season. I think we can look forward to a major advance next season.

OldSage
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Late in reply as usual is old sage but here I am! I agree with Spanish’s appraisal of our chances and wonder at the doom and gloom? Believe in the team, the manager, and the LFC history and make the treble your dream not top four! This IS Liverpool!

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