so Stoke didn’t win today either. But is it ironic that the once “boring, knock you down on defense, and put in crosses and Delap long throws” team is playing some good football? And the reason they are doing it is with the likes of Shaqiri, Affelay and Bojan. ALL players that were rumoured to be on their way to LFC for at least three Transfer windows apiece.

Maybe frustrating is the better word?

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sandiphulse
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Well not sure mate, yes they attack well , let us wait till the season ends, yes they have a lot less pressure than LFC , the next match will give us more clear cut answer, if we perform like we did against the Hammers, they will bury us for sure… but Klopp would have given a piece of his mind, he has played a good cop all along, don’t know how the players will react to the bad cop, we will wait and see.

Realspanishred
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It’s ok to say there was talk about us signing them but would they have fitted in our system and who would we have sold or not bought. They are certainly playing well

lanoisseforp
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I want Klopp to play bad cop and will have to remind these players that they are playing for their futures. Maybe it’s not the answer but this is Liverpool FC they are playing for.

RedUncle
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There was a noticeable number of incidents where our players were berating each other on the pitch against West Ham. It’s one thing when you get older members of the team forcefully telling younger members what they should be doing, like Carragher did, but it’s more problematic when you have players of approximately equal standing in the team laying into one another. Lallana was heard to tell Benteke to ‘get into the **** box’ in no uncertain terms and there was clear friction between Sakho and Mignolet at points, just to name a few examples. Klopp has been talking down transfer activity in January so if we do have any new signings I doubt it’ll be more than a couple. What is of greater importance, in my eyes, is that the existing squad needs to forge a greater understanding instead of playing like a group of individuals, a group that seems to be fracturing rather than bonding. 90% of the players in our squad have played a high standard of football either before or after they joined Liverpool, these aren’t players, on the whole, who you can say were never good enough for the club. The idea that we need… Read more »
Huytonian
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I don’t think players berating each other is necessarily a bad thing and certainly Lallana only told Benteke what i was screaming at him to do from the comfort of my chair. Neither do I think there is a bad team spirit. Its a mixture of tiredness, injuries to key players (8 out at present) lack of confidence and more than anything lack of goals. I read we have scored fewer goals in the first 20 matches than in any season since the club was formed in 1892. We can blame the strikers but the whole team needs to chip in. Looking at Deli Alli yesterday I am wondering how we missed out on this lad who contributes so many goals from midfield. I recall we conceded twice at West Ham 3 years ago but we scored 3. Today we only win matches if we keep a clean sheet. Solve the goal scoring problem and confidence will return and we will improve all over the pitch.

RedUncle
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I wouldn’t say we necessarily have a bad team spirit, although it’s getting worse rather than better given what we see on the pitch. However, in my eyes, the friction in matches is a sign of frustration more than anything else and that frustration originates from players not quite having a shared understanding of what they’re supposed to be doing as a team (and whether individuals are fulfilling their obligations). Instead of bringing in a raft of new players I’d rather see Klopp first get the players he already has fully understanding what the other players in the team are doing and what their responsibilities are so that the interactions within the team are smoother and more productive. This will instantly reduce levels of frustration and we’ll play more like a team. Of course, this sounds simple but is easier said than done, although I think it’s folly to bring new players into a team that is not quite functioning properly.

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