Football is a very subjective subject, but i find it hard to comprehend the critics that call these two “not Liverpool Class”. A successful team needs players who get on quietly with their tasks to allow the likes of Coutinho Mane etc to do what they do best. Because they are not flamboyant does not mean they are any less talented. Henderson is always compared to Stevie G because he took over the captaincy , to make such comparisons is crazy, Henderson is a different animal, just as trying to compare Ian rush with Kenny Dalglish because they were both Goalscorers.

James Milner has shown his class by playing wherever Klopp wants him too , never flashy just steady every week. The great man himself Shanks said to make a great team you need 4 piano players and six guys to carry it. These two are two of the best carriers in the business.

Henderson is maturing into a top captain every week, just his finishing consistently lets him down, thats what made Stevie G world class. 

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RedUncle
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I don’t think many fans, of both Liverpool and England, understand how Henderson plays. Gerrard would either drive directly at the opposition himself or make a long pass to an attacker. Henderson operates in slightly different way. When he gets the ball he rarely holds onto it for long, if he can’t see a pass to an attacker he moves the ball on to someone else. Henderson has the highest pass completion of anyone in the Premier League and it’s no coincidence because he passes the ball around so often. The logic to this is twofold: by constantly keeping the ball moving between players he’s more likely to create an opening by dragging the opposition out of position, and if he can’t see a defence-bypassing pass himself a fellow player might be in a more productive position. Watch the first half in Henderson’s Man Of The Match performance for England against Malta (don’t watch the second half, it was ****) and you can see this in practice. Henderson quietly keeps the ball moving around until he sees Sturridge at the far post and then he launches a long ball straight to his head. Some people don’t understand that you can’t… Read more »
Huytonian
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Its all about achieving a balance in the team. You need a mix of players with a spark who can do something a bit different like Mane, and those who create a platform for those players. Henderson comes into the latter category. I was disappointed that so many fans criticised him last season when he was trying to play through the pain barrier and I’m delighted that he is now coming back to his best form, albeit in a deeper role than previously which I think will suit him. As for Milner he has always been a model professional. They are both having to learn a new position but do so without complaint and their development shows they are clearly listening to the coaches.

RedUncle
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There’s a bit of discussion about Milner at the moment because Steve Nicol has said he will be found out against real pace. I don’t think this argument stands up because he’s already played Spurs and Chelsea and he did fine. It can hardly be said they’ve got slow players. Also, nine out of ten fullbacks will struggle against an attacker with lightning pace, it’s difficult for most defenders to cope when they come up against a player with exceptional speed. I’d be amazed if Milner doesn’t struggle at least once this season against an opponent, he’s not a specialist fullback after all. What’s important is that so far he’s handled the vast majority of situations surprisingly well.

Huytonian
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I’m trying to think who are the quickest, trickiest wide right players in the PL and I can’t think of anyone better than Mane. Only Willian comes anywhere near. So if Milner is practising against Mane all week he should be ok against most teams.

RedUncle
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I thought if anyone would catch Milner out it’d be Eden Hazard but that didn’t seem to be the case. Because we press so quickly high up the pitch I don’t think players with pace really have a chance to attack our fullbacks. Our attack and midfield tend to prevent quick players building up a head of steam and this probably gives a positionally-aware Milner that little bit of extra time to get where he should be.

Musicman71 aka Muso
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Hendo for England captain. The last few games he has bossed it, and made the now (seemingly) redundant Shrek look even more pedestrian than normal!! And Milner? He seems to be reveling in his new role, and loving every minute that he’s on the pitch.

RedUncle
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I felt a bit sorry for Hendo after the Slovenia game. He seemed to carry the responsibility of captaincy rather heavily and his game suffered a little. Mind you, apart from Joe Hart I don’t think anyone played well. But the response towards Hendo on the net and in the papers afterwards was so disproportionally negative you’d have thought he was solely responsible for the loss.

Huytonian
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Had it not been for that poor back pass late on Henderson would have had a decent if not outstanding game. None of the outfield players was better than a 6 out of 10. Who would the detractors want as England captain, Rooney? Cahill? No thanks! By the way Uncle it was a draw – it just felt like a loss.

RedUncle
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Ha ha, I got a bit carried away there. Yeah, that back pass was a gift to his critics even though it wasn’t typical of his performance in that game.

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