Numbers DO NOT equate to competition.  Performances do.

For too long our midfield has been flooded with transfer window purchases adding another young player/prospect to our ranks in the hope that he will come good, or push another in his position to excel by creating composition.

Instead, we’ve found players given a run-out of a few games here or there hoping that he seizes the opportunity with top class performances and banging in goals and winning points.  This ‘throwing mud and seeing what sticks’ approach hopefully (or was it hopelessly) attempted over and over again by Rodgers was generally unsuccessful and in part was let to his demise.

And yet, we still have some numbers, and I believe we have some quality.  So why the frustrating lack of goal production from players who we expect so much more from?  Why haven’t our numbers seemingly pushed players on?  Why, if we assigned a single digit number to the last time the likes of Milner, Hendo, Lallana and Can scored we would use it to refer to months, and not games?

All that is until now.  This weekend saw a goal from each of Henderson, Milner and the penultimate celebratory goal by Lallana.  Where did they find their inspiration?  Of course the shambolic defense that was Norwich played a key role in all three of them getting on the score sheet.  But what else did it?  Was it some great inspirational speech by Klopp?  As much as we’d love a manager to be able to provide such great motivational speeches, that well usually runs dry at this level rather quickly.

I think the real reason for this boost to these players comes from the most unlikely of sources…Joe Allen.  A player that most of us, myself included, never saw any attacking threat at a top level being provided by Joe.  But his recent attempts to get into the box and scoring a couple of goals has had some people clamoring for his inclusion into the first XI.  And it is this production by what most would consider a second-string player, that I feel is what is giving the first-stringers that motivation that they haven’t found inside themselves before.  A rising tide raises all ships.

Joe as a number hasn’t helped.  But Joe’s recent performances, has affected not only himself but those around him.  Performance and Production, not Numbers.

 

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Fotakis
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Always believed in Allen and have never slagged him even when surrounded by fellow Reds giving me stick. I still don’t see him as an attacking threat but a defensive pest. He’s got tennacity, energy and aggression. And i feel bad that after his recent performances isn’t getting a PL game. Performances should be rewarded, otherwise you are motivating a player to give up. He might as well say If am not playing after what i showed, then why try? I hope he doesn’t. He is a really good back up to any team and with such a shortage its a shame he isnt used

warrior18
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Allen divides many opinions and i have to admit i’m not a fan, i’ve never been inspired by him and like a lot of our players simply too inconsistent, very greatful for his recent goals but again like many of our players, simply not good enough for LFC, if he must be at LFC next season he’ll not be anything more than a squad player and if he’s happy enough with that then that shows where his mentality lies.

Realspanishred
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Sorry warrior I have to disagree, I’m a big fan of wee Joe and he doesn’t get the credit he deserves. I’m not sure what he has to do, to get a start. Lallana went for weeks doing nothing but still managed to start. His cameo against Norwich will probably guarantee him a new season and imo Klopp has not been fair on wee Joe. Even after some motm performances he still finds himself on the bench. I don’t know what he has to do. I will probably smash my TV one day watching Lallana

warrior18
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He dosen’t get the credit because he dosen’t deserve any mate, he’s been a major flop and there’s no denying it, i agree with you on lallana but the welsh xavi, nah, no chance, he would’nt be fit to tie xavi’s laces mate imo.

DB-99
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Our players show some quality, whether it’s intricate passing or creating or setting up a classy move but the likes of Milner, Lallana, Lucas, Can and Allen have no consistency at all. I’ve got time for Can because he’s a young talent. Hendo is only midfielder who shows consistency but he’s been injured for a while and will take time to get to 100% but he’s been our best midfielder. I’ve seen good crosses, accurate long diagonal balls, good runs forward and through balls. Quality players can do this on a consistent basis. I don’t think our midfielders are top4 team quality but can be good squad players. The reality is this season we go into games not knowing which LFC will show up and that’s because the quality of our players isn’t good enough. If we get 2 or 3 real talents in the team then I think they will get others to play more consistently and bring their levels up by getting them more space to operate in.

Realspanishred
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You must be on a wind up warrior, to not be able to see the difference in our team when Allen comes on,if it wasn’t for Allen we would would have lost a few games recently. He doesn’t seem to get the credit he deserves. Can for me has been really poor lately but doesn’t get criticised the way Joe does. For starters Allen very rarely loses the ball,I would like to bet it is a lot less than ANY of our other mids. Ok he might slow our play down but sometimes that’s what’s needed to see out a game. Maybe it’s something Klopp needs to learn, we can’t play geggenpress for 90+ minutes

warrior18
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No wind up spanish, that’s my opinion on allen, how long is he at the club now, 4years and still hasn’t nailed down a first team place, why is that???

DB-99
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Allen is exactly where he should be and that’s a squad player. He’s not a first team player. If the team were blinding run of form and playing the opposition off the park and then Joe comes in and makes the team play better then hell yeah I’d agree with you. but we’ve been uninspiring mate. He’s coming on it’s fresh legs during a bumper packed schedule so he’s bound to improve the game. Remember Joe’s last start with Lucas in midfield? we lost to Watford. He rightly lost his place. now he’s been playing better and the team are still playing badly so I’d give him a go in the first 11 but he’s role should be a squad player. For his sake I’m sure he won’t be happy with that.

Realspanishred
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He has had a few injuries in that time,he also has been playing out of position for most of that time covering someone else’s ***. Any time he has came on in his preferred position he has been motm most of the time. No coincidence imo.

RedUncle
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Virtually every time Joe Allen has come on as a substitute this season he’s had a positive impact, he’s even scored goals, and he also helped steer an inexperienced team through a tricky cup tie against Exeter. No, Allen may not be as flamboyant as Firmino but he deserves credit for making the most of the limited opportunities he’s had this season. Allen was the victim of Rodgers’ experimentation. When he initially came Allen was played as an attacking midfielder, and he did well, but then he was moved back into that playmaker position, a role which would eventually become Gerrard’s. Allen, rather unfairly, got labelled with the ‘he only passes sideways and backwards’ description, something which no doubt contributed to his eventual loss of form. Liverpool supporters have short memories because in the same way John Barnes was slaughtered by England fans when he was moved from an attacking role into a deeper role Allen also got the same reaction after being repositioned. Both players suffered for their manager’s search for the right formation. Loss of form and injuries have pretty much led to Allen falling down the pecking order over the last couple of seasons, he’s never really… Read more »
Realspanishred
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Great post mate and sums up my feelings entirely. People want consistency and slate Joe for lack of it. It is impossible to be consistent if you don’t play consistently. We really do need to give him a break and with a run of games in his best position he would prove his doubters wrong.

Koped49
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I think that’s why they did not let him go to Swansea the other week when they came in for him. He can do a good job for us either as a starter or from the bench, at the moment he seems to make a good impact from the bench. But maybe get a more regular run in the side.

Huytonian
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Allen scored goals for Swansea so it shouldn’t be a surprise that he’s scored for us recently having played a bit further forward. I don’t see him as a starter but a useful squad player. Remember we need 8 English and Welsh players in our squads to meet UEFA and FA rules.

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