Of course most of the rumours during the silly season are fluff meant for the purpose of filling pages. So one has to take a lot of these with a grain of salt and not put too much stock in what they say. 

But tonight’s Belgium v Wales match made me think about two related rumours. One being the very legitimate possibility that Joe Allen will be leaving LFC this summer. And the other which is most likely unreal, and after today hopefully not going to happen. And that was the linking of Belgium midfielder Axel Witsel to LFC. Joe Allen has not only grown over the season, but has done a fantastic job for Wales in the Euros. But Witsel looked invisible and was a major non-factor in today’s match. 

I’m not saying Joe is our answer to improvement going forward. But Witsel definitely didn’t look the answer either, and looks more a step down. 

Congrats to Wales for the victory tonight. I hope they beat Portugal, who by the way haven’t won one game in 90 minutes in this tournament. 

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RedUncle
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The latest I read about Axel Witsel was that Everton were interested in him so he might be coming to Merseyside, just the wrong side. As for Joe Allen, what bemuses me is that not since the days of Reina, Alonso and Torres have we had players who have reached the final stages of international tournaments and yet we have one now who has played a crucial role in getting his team into a semi-final and we’re willing to sell him. I swear if Allen was from somewhere like Spain or Argentina he’d be going nowhere. We’ll probably sell Allen and bring in an unproven kid who will take a season or so to settle. I just find the whole situation perverse, to be honest.

Huytonian
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I don’t think its so much a question of Liverpool wanting to move Allen on, its more a question of Allen at 26 needing to be a regular starter rather than a squad player. He’s very effective in international football being excellent technically but he can be out -muscled in the hurly burly of the Premier League. I’d be very happy if he stayed but I think for the sake of his career he needs to move on. I think our 2 more defensive midfielders next season will be Henderson and Can so the “unproven kids” (Grujic and Stewart) will only be subs or play when there are injuries.

RedUncle
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I’m sorry, I just don’t buy this ‘Allen can be out-muscled in the Premier League’ argument. Yes, when he first arrived at the club he was too light-weight but when he returned to the side last season he was consistently one of our better players when he played and I don’t recall him frequently being pushed off the ball. In fact, during the Euro’s I’ve seen refs having to have a word with him to cool it down a touch because he’s be a tad too physical. If Klopp wants to sell him because he doesn’t believe he fits in the team, then ok, that’s a manager’s prerogative, but to sell him because he can’t handle the PL, I’m not having that.

Huytonian
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Don’t get me wrong. I think he competes quite well for a player of his size but the problem he has is that there seem to be more and more hugely physical midfielders in the Pl these days. Anyway you may get your wish as I saw an article stating Liverpool would not sell Allen unless they could secure Zielinski or Darhoud and neither transfer is looking promising at the moment.

warrior18
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He won’t be sold because he can’t handle the PL, he clearly can as he was a star player for swansea so if klopp sells him it’s purely for tactical reasons as in he dosen’t see allen fitting into his style of play that he’s trying to implement but allen may just have redeemed himself with his performances in the euro’s so far, time will tell but it does look like he’s on his way out at this time.

RedUncle
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I have no problem with Klopp selling him if he feels Allen doesn’t fit the style of squad he’s trying to create, that’s all part of management. What I find a little annoying is that for a number of seasons now we’ve brought in players that, let’s be honest, few of us have heard of and their success rate has been questionable to say the least, many have ended up on loan. With Allen we have a player who has proven he can perform at domestic and international level, although admittedly it has been a long time coming. When Klopp is already bringing in a host of new players, some untested in the Premier League, I’d personally prefer it if he retained some reliable members of the squad (something Allen surely is), especially when we’re now missing players like Kolo. Rodgers changed a relatively large number of players in a single window on occasions and the outcome was disappointing, Klopp should be careful he doesn’t do the same.

Jamie (admin)
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Some amazing scenes here in Wales last night. A fantastic performance and one hell of a story. Portugal have been mediocre throughout and its laughable they got this far. There’s every chance little old Wales could make the final. Alex Witsel? Not seen any rumour of that over here so don’t worry too much. It’s actually pretty quiet on the rumour front, word is palace bid 25m for Benteke but were holding out for 30??? I’d have bitten there hand off for 25. Joe Allen is a tough one, I’d love to see him stay but ultimately it’ll be up to him, he could be a big star elsewhere so I couldn’t blame him for moving on.

warrior18
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25mill for benteke, i would do a luis suarez on them all day long, lol.
Joe allen frustrates the hell out of me mate, i just can’t make up my mind on him, although i will say he improved under klopp last season without a doubt but is he good enough to help get us back to where we want to be,i don’t think so mate.

sandiphulse
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If Joe Allen wants to stay, Klopp will definitely keep him but won’t promise him starting XI, so I think he will go, I think for Hendo this season will decide his future with us and I am sure he will play far better this season if he completely recovers this season, Zielinski is not a kind of player we need after we signed Mane, Dahoud looks more like a box to box so does Gruijic but Gruijic will take at least two to three seasons to develop

Huytonian
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Yes it’s a make or break season for Henderson. It is unfair to judge him on last season when he was carrying an injury. If he can get back to the form of the previous two seasons he will be a vital player going forward. I was encouraged by his one performance in the Euro’s. He looked sharper in that game than I had seen all last season.

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